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Auchenblae Hotel Explosion

Auchenblae Hotel Explosion
Gas blast ripped apart a North-east hotel.
Three people were seriously injured in the explosion at the Drumtochty Arms Hotel in Auchenblae.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIcfe-9eYtU

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Propane Gas!  Dangerous stuff  
BoB

Most of the hotel has to be demolished tomorrow Friday 9th January 2009.

STV News
Wee John

Aye I read aboot that fire, sure is a shame on the area, as I'm sure most people were looking forward tae the grand opening after a year.

But propane is perfectly safe, I've worked with it many times through the years, it's nae more dangerous than regular gas.
It was probably an installation failure (tae put it politely).




BoB

It was bottled gas WJ.
Propane is a lot more dangerous than Natural gas.
It moves at three times the speed and is heavier than air.

I know what I am talking aboot, trust me.

As it was bottled gas and people reported smelling gas just before the explosion, either it was leaking (a barmaid went down to the cellar and felt a strong smell of gas just before the explosion) or someone left it turned on in the kitchen as is rumoured but not confirmed.

If it was a leak or someone left it turned on then it would be stronger in the cellar where the beer kegs were.
I thought they would have had an isolation valve for gas to the kitchen to turn it off to all appliances when kitchen was not in use

To think they just spent quarter of a million revamping the place  

I would not rule out a faulty installation!

Until the investigations are complete (and I doubt if they ever will be, as they are due to demolish it today) it is all pure speculation and rumour.
Wee John

Hi BoB,
 didna mean tae gee the impression there wasn't any difference in the gases.

Propane (LP) gas is as you said a heaver gas and cannot be used in regular appliances without changing orifice.

I do know about propane, all I was meaning is when installed properly and used properly, it is no more dangerous than natural gas. (outside of it staying near the ground)

I agree with you about isolation valves, I personally on any of my installations always installed one after I came through the wall into building (of course there is one on each tank) and if the pipes went to separate rooms I installed  one after  each tee, plus one on each appliance.
I always felt that yes maybe it was over kill, but if I had to come back and do any work I could cut my time way done, plus anyone could shut off any unit and keep things going until repairs were made.  

As someone, said it is possible that someone may have turned the gas on for the cooker (but highly unlikely) and went away an left it, more likely an installation goof, but it would have went into basement in either case.  

But we will never know.    

But just happy the place was not full, as it really would have been a disaster.
As you sayed all pure speculation and rumour  on our part.      
BoB

Wish there were more people doing work like that WJ.
The amount of places I have closed down  

I may be a wanted man      
woodysdad

Well I dinnae want ye!      
BoB

I'll be your dog!  


Wee John

bobaroo wrote:
Wish there were more people doing work like that WJ.
The amount of places I have closed down  

I may be a wanted man      



  Oh eh've kent  a few  people like you.

Hahaha, Eh ken whut you mean, I was fortunate enough that eh got a long wae they guys (I'm assuming inspectors)
but you want tae hear whut thir called in the supply hoose.        

I have had a few scares walking in on jobs myself and seeing how they were done and wondering
how it worked or how the place was still here.        
MadWelshie

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/north_east/7823718.stm

Quote:
A woman rescued from rubble after an explosion at an Aberdeenshire hotel has said she was "lucky to be alive".

Barmaid Danielle Ormond, 26, was badly injured after the blast at the Drumtochty Arms in Auchenblae, which also injured two men.

Her injuries after last Wednesday's explosion included broken ribs.

Speaking from her bed at Aberdeen Royal Infirmary, Ms Ormond said: "The fact that I can walk around now is an absolute miracle."

She said she had gone to the hotel's cellar after a customer complained his beer was too warm.

On her way to the cellar, she said a workman in the adjoining kitchen asked if she could smell gas. She said she did, but that it was "not overpowering".

'Risked lives'

Ms Ormond explained: "I don't remember the blast, I just remember feeling a huge force for a split second.

"I remember hearing my name being shouted and I remember shouting 'help me'. I could feel the pressure all about me."

Ms Ormond, who lives in Auchenblae, said that a man and a woman from the village spent about 20 minutes removing the rubble around her.

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